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Re: ESP8266 Killer? $5, 150Mbps, RTL8711AF, CP830

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:56 pm
by villTech
johnyradio wrote:If another board works, it's documented, and cheaper, then "community" is not as important.

if you take out the "community", who will make your CP830 product popular? phone maker, tablet maker? off-the-shelf IoT product maker?
you really seemed so out of place here. :D :D :D

if there is no community, maybe, you wouldn't even bother posting "ESP8266 Killer?" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: ESP8266 Killer? $5, 150Mbps, RTL8711AF, CP830

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:07 pm
by martin_g
I don't know where you get the idea that "no one cares" about cheap Arduino boards. I sure do!
Another issue is ease of use. I don't know if this realtek chip is easy to use. If so, then it's a viable option.

Of course I do care about cheap compatible boards, but that is the point. On Arduino compatible boards and also on the ESP want to reuse all the code, tools and knowledge that has been build up by the community. This is the hugest part of the 'ease of use'.

Re: ESP8266 Killer? $5, 150Mbps, RTL8711AF, CP830

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:39 pm
by johnyradio
villTech wrote:if you take out the "community", who will make your CP830 product popular?

when i said "ESP8266 Killer", i was simply referring to price and features. not popularity.

similar to hackaday's speculation about these other chips:
http://hackaday.com/2016/01/30/esp8266-killer/
http://hackaday.com/2015/07/13/new-part ... 66-killer/
http://hackaday.com/2016/07/28/new-chip ... ompetitor/
http://hackaday.com/2017/01/04/rust-run ... ternative/

no need to tell me i'm "out of place here". don't take it personally!

martin_g wrote:Of course I do care about cheap compatible boards, but that is the point. On Arduino compatible boards and also on the ESP want to reuse all the code, tools and knowledge that has been build up by the community.

true, if migrating existing esp8266 code to this other wireless chip is important to you.
migrating existing code is not my concern.

migrating existing code is not how i define "ease of use".

Re: ESP8266 Killer? $5, 150Mbps, RTL8711AF, CP830

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:09 pm
by rudy
ATM, I'm just interested in comparing features, at a similar price point as the ESP (which this realtek chip is). A board that's in a higher price bracket is not going to qualify as an ESP alternative.


The realtek is NOT at a similar price point to the ESP8266 modules. It is priced just a little less that the ESP-32. The realtek module is 76% more expensive than the ESP-12F. If you want to compare specs to a comparable priced module then do your comparison to the ESP-32.

RTl8711AF $3.89 USD ebay link provided in first post. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-RTl8711AF-I ... 2035381913

ESP-32 $4.12 USD https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ESP-32S ... 83650.html

ESP8266-12F $2.21 USD https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ESP8266 ... 82056.html

All free shipping. Quantity 1